View Full Version : Keith is bad arse
WILL SCRAPE!!!!
11-05-2007, 02:21 PM
I would like to thank keith for coming out last night to midlothian to help out another shop fix there rig. Last night ekstensive broke down on the side of the highway and they needed somebody to weld up there wishbone bracket that broke off the frame on there kodiak so i called up keith and he came out with his welder and performed his magic and fixxed there ride so they could get back to houston. Once again keith you are the mutha fuckin man.:55[1]: :rock: :rock:
bolis96s10
11-05-2007, 02:24 PM
thats what i call a badass friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mafiaman
11-05-2007, 02:24 PM
that's badass Keith!
imported_Dragginblazer
11-05-2007, 03:37 PM
hope keith charged them a arm and a leg!
scummbagg
11-05-2007, 03:41 PM
Keith should start a AAA broken minitruck service. lol
Innovation By Design
11-05-2007, 03:42 PM
Isn't that Bills truck or no? It seems like as big as that thing is they would carry a little 175 mig welder and a power inverter since that is what they do for a living and all.
Flatman
11-05-2007, 03:44 PM
hope keith charged them a arm and a leg!
LOL.
That' cool that he helped them out.:clap:
WILL SCRAPE!!!!
11-05-2007, 04:11 PM
i dunno what he charged them but i know he didn't walk away empty handed
dimehoe
11-05-2007, 06:18 PM
Hell yeah, I heard about that when i was over at waynes. Yeah keith needs to get one of those miller bobcat welders in the back of the dodge. Haha the worlds first bagged on 22"s mobile welding truck.
ShLamdchevy
11-05-2007, 07:53 PM
thats what i have in my emergency kit incase something happens to my truck.....
20 bucks and his number.
Nfamuskeith
11-05-2007, 09:47 PM
didnt charge them anything just helped them out they had been on the road for like 25 - 30 hours they were just ready to get home.
GREGSONOMA
11-05-2007, 09:51 PM
that kodiak is sweet! still would of raped them on a price, hell they do it to everybody else
dimehoe
11-05-2007, 09:54 PM
Keith is the bomb thats class right there
damnit keith why didnt you call me cracker.... you know we are KNS road side serivce lol..
KNS+ KeefNfamusSavours
lol i need to get you a orange saftey vest from work
Marioz
11-05-2007, 11:37 PM
hell yea man, mad respect for bein you and helping out when you dont need to
89chevyguy
11-05-2007, 11:39 PM
keith has helped me out before too and he is the shit
outlawcrewcab
11-05-2007, 11:41 PM
i was told he bubble gum welded it and took pics to show off there "shitty" work on it to try to bring them down!!!!
Bagged87c10
11-06-2007, 02:07 AM
i woulda talked shit to them the whole time.... damn bill what happened to "your" bars.. or say well i can fix it but your gonna need all new stuff....
TealChevy
11-06-2007, 07:22 AM
Bill insnt too "easy" on that truck. I am suprised it has not broken sooner after seeing some of the things he does with his vehicles.
WILL SCRAPE!!!!
11-06-2007, 09:03 AM
Bill insnt too "easy" on that truck. I am suprised it has not broken sooner after seeing some of the things he does with his vehicles.
Yah those guys that was driving the truck cause bill flew back from sema were telling me that bill drives that thing like a mad man they were talking about him doing dougnuts and shit like it was nothing.
JETSETTER
11-06-2007, 09:46 AM
For those of you who haven't meet or hung out with Bill, He is one of the most laid back, down to earth guys you will ever meet. He has been a minitrucker before most of you were born. I meet him about 12 yrs ago at a show and he pulled over to help us out. I have only hung with him a few times since then an we are usually drunk. LOL However, I hear a lot of people rag on Ekstensive, WHY? Bill and his crew build some badass rides and they drive the shit out of them. Who else do you know that would build a kodiak and do nasty burnouts and doughnuts in it. It proves the work they do is high quality. How many duallys have come out of that shop and been able to throw a 30+ foot car hauler on and drive across country with out breaking down. Every truck or car that comes out of there is able to be a daily driver. Not that you would want to, but it is still a testiment to there work. Why hate on a minitrucker that has seen the light at the end of the tunnel in the beginning of our sport, hobby, lifestyle? He decided to make money on something he loves, most of us would love to be in his shoes, however, we then would be the hated! Just my 2 cents! Thanks for reading, think about it! If you could get paid to do soething you love, wouldn't you do it the best you could and get PAID!
BabyblueBlaze
11-06-2007, 11:30 AM
I don't think anyone's sayin their work sucks...in fact, I think we'd all agree that the opposite is true. They do great work AND they know it. Problem is they've pretty much priced themselves out of the market for most minitruckers.
Quick example; I'm a Houston-guy at heart (born & raised there...like to do business there). Called Ekstensive a few weeks ago to get some info on baggin my blazer. Being a rookie at this, I made sure to ask lots of questions cause I like to find out what my hard-earned cash is going to get me. Talked to a few peeps at Ekstensive and they were helpful & courteous BUT they wanted over 7 grand to bag it, c-notch it, modify the x member, section the frame, build a 'custom' aluminum fuel cell (which I was told I had to have), and tub the rear for 20's. THIS WAS FOR A FREAKING 2-LINK mind you.
Called ma nigga Keef a few weeks ago and am getting the exact same (only with a 4-link and no need for a fuel cell) for much less. While ekstensive was helpful, they wanted a grand up front to get on a 'waiting list'. Keith told me he could get me in after he gets done with the projects he's got now (just a few weeks)...no waiting months and months with my money on the line.
Plus, Keith is a guy that knows where he came from...not saying the guys at ekstensive don't, but it seems like Keith ain't all about the money...he loves what he does and it shows when you drop by the shop and shoot the shit with him....I went by the shop for the 1st time last week and he took over an hour of his time to show me around, talk to me about his shop, and look at the blazer. I'm not sure that anyone nowadays would take that kind of time.
Anyway, don't want to get in the middle of all this....just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in since I've been talking with both of 'em.
TealChevy
11-06-2007, 11:57 AM
Keef is a lot smaller...keep this in mind. Thats why he has time to walk you around. Bill is a business man...and he knows what sells. thats why there is a waiting list for his jobs and he charges that much
Dont get me wrong. My truck is heading for Keeef soon to get done. But nobody seems to understand that things change. ESPECIALLY from a business stand point.
IH8YOU
11-06-2007, 12:13 PM
Keef is a lot smaller...keep this in mind. Thats why he has time to walk you around. Bill is a business man...and he knows what sells. thats why there is a waiting list for his jobs and he charges that much
Dont get me wrong. My truck is heading for Keeef soon to get done. But nobody seems to understand that things change. ESPECIALLY from a business stand point.
True, Bill would not be where he is at today if he had not taken to time to do the things Keith is currently doing now. As buisnesses grow and become more successfull a owner has to change his focuses and daily routines to allow for additional growth and to remain competitive. If it were not for constant change and reworking of the buisness structure shops like his could not stay in buisness. The bottom line and end result of any buisnesses survival is customer service and finished product, in that case I think both Bill and Keith have the market pretty well secured there.
As far as Ekstensive requiring a deposit, I am sure if you maintained the sq footage and staff he did you would do whatever it takes to make sure your guys had work coming in, a deposit assures that you don't back out and not drop you truck off the day it is scheduled to be there, if you were to do so his guys who now thought they had work for the next week or two are not sitting empty handed. Killer Rides requires a down/deposit as well as most nationally known shops. There may be a time where Keith has to do so as well and at that point I am sure nobody would have a problem with doing that because you know what the end result is going to be.
WILL SCRAPE!!!!
11-06-2007, 05:44 PM
True, Bill would not be where he is at today if he had not taken to time to do the things Keith is currently doing now. As buisnesses grow and become more successfull a owner has to change his focuses and daily routines to allow for additional growth and to remain competitive. If it were not for constant change and reworking of the buisness structure shops like his could not stay in buisness. The bottom line and end result of any buisnesses survival is customer service and finished product, in that case I think both Bill and Keith have the market pretty well secured there.
As far as Ekstensive requiring a deposit, I am sure if you maintained the sq footage and staff he did you would do whatever it takes to make sure your guys had work coming in, a deposit assures that you don't back out and not drop you truck off the day it is scheduled to be there, if you were to do so his guys who now thought they had work for the next week or two are not sitting empty handed. Killer Rides requires a down/deposit as well as most nationally known shops. There may be a time where Keith has to do so as well and at that point I am sure nobody would have a problem with doing that because you know what the end result is going to be.
Well put allen.:clap:
JETSETTER
11-06-2007, 07:31 PM
since you mentioned Keef! He will be painting my truck when it's done this time around! He does excellent work! I was just pointing out that every time I am on here and Ekstensive is brought up its :axe_anim: on how much they charge! I think Allen has made an excellent point:lol: !
had22's
11-06-2007, 08:58 PM
hey kerry they call keith keef....its not keef we know
morbidtacos
11-06-2007, 09:18 PM
hey kerry they call keith keef....its not keef we know
I knew that was going to confuse somebody some day.
Nitrodime...
11-06-2007, 09:42 PM
Funny thing is his name isnt Keith or Keef ...
BabyblueBlaze
11-06-2007, 10:42 PM
True, Bill would not be where he is at today if he had not taken to time to do the things Keith is currently doing now. As buisnesses grow and become more successfull a owner has to change his focuses and daily routines to allow for additional growth and to remain competitive. If it were not for constant change and reworking of the buisness structure shops like his could not stay in buisness. The bottom line and end result of any buisnesses survival is customer service and finished product, in that case I think both Bill and Keith have the market pretty well secured there.
As far as Ekstensive requiring a deposit, I am sure if you maintained the sq footage and staff he did you would do whatever it takes to make sure your guys had work coming in, a deposit assures that you don't back out and not drop you truck off the day it is scheduled to be there, if you were to do so his guys who now thought they had work for the next week or two are not sitting empty handed. Killer Rides requires a down/deposit as well as most nationally known shops. There may be a time where Keith has to do so as well and at that point I am sure nobody would have a problem with doing that because you know what the end result is going to be.
Can't argue with that...good points all the way 'round. Never really thought about it that way.
Keef is still a bad mutha though.
TealChevy
11-06-2007, 11:48 PM
Funny thing is his name isnt Keith or Keef ...
wtf would YOU know !!!!
Chevytruckin98
11-06-2007, 11:59 PM
Good shit kieth, im hearin your name dropped out here in Ca. about your work.
morbidtacos
11-07-2007, 12:19 AM
That's pretty bad ass.
Slammy
11-07-2007, 04:03 AM
In response to "people pricing themselves out of the market or charging too much". How are you supposed to run a business or have a life when you dont make any real profit? High fives and people praising you dont pay bills!
outlawcrewcab
11-07-2007, 08:39 AM
In response to "people pricing themselves out of the market or charging too much". How are you supposed to run a business or have a life when you dont make any real profit? High fives and people praising you dont pay bills!
WORD when you do it for a bussines you have to make money. i hear people bitching about me and keiths prices even. remeber we have shop'd and shop bills to pay for plus the salary of our employes whihc incluides us. i have a house payment and house bills and a truck payment i have to make also. so think about that when you get a price. and you want to make sure there still around down the road if you have a problem right? You have to charge more. it cost me roughly $50 a hr to cover everything at shop you do the math we have to make $400 a day in profit to keep shop running smooth i mean hell think about taking your car to a mechanic for motor repair or such you pay 50-100 a hr for fixing it thats not custom work which is much harder so with that being said i have raised my prices. i do NOT do cheap set-ups or will i. i am happy bill has made it where he is i hope to be like that. i know where i came from. i know i had to spend money to build my stuff nice. in return if the "mini truckers" want to see me or keith around be willing to pay. and if you want to save a little $ and order parts off line GREAT! more power to ya. but dont come in to my shop and waste my time to ask how to work parts or install it call who you ordered from. these past couple of weeks i have seen alot of that we have worked hard to learn what we do. if you want info pay for it. i have always bent over backwards for people around here but no one returns the favor. have no problem calling at 10PM needing a part to get you off the road but then order parts from other place to save a buck remeber that when your broke down call them to bring you a part at night or on weekends!!!
ok sorry threads like this get me going LOL:rotf:
:end of rant::soapbox:
BabyblueBlaze
11-07-2007, 08:56 AM
True...sometimes you can't be too cheap for people & sometimes there is no loyalty. Just like there are some shops that will quote you an outrageous price just because they can.
My point is that it goes both ways;
Never said that you shouldn't make a living...just said that there is probably a little resentment towards some of the more expensive shops for just that reason...it's a little more expensive than the average 20-30 year old minitrucker can afford.
Go back and see how many people commented that Keith should have charged Ekstensive an arm and a leg...
Is that really any different than you guys getting frustrated about cheap asses buying parts online for you to install?
WILL SCRAPE!!!!
11-07-2007, 09:16 AM
I'm actually gonna go here perty soon to houston and check out ekstensive that guy invited me down to check out the shop and see how they do things
ShallowPocketz
11-07-2007, 02:39 PM
i have always bent over backwards for people around here
That is so very true. More than half of what little I know about building minis, was taught to me by Joe. Also the bulk of the parts I have bought from him, he has brought home and allowed me to come to his house at 10pm and pick up, so I didn't have to drive 10 miles. And I'm sure Keith would do the same thing.
imported_Dragginblazer
11-07-2007, 03:21 PM
I charged Shaq $100 one time to change a blown fuse on his bagged esky that was in a "the game" video:inot:
JETSETTER
11-07-2007, 05:12 PM
I knew that was going to confuse somebody some day.
Well I only know one KEEF and he's in ///RA=KEEF's Rod and Kustom in Mississippi. Sorry to confuse, or be confused! LOL
Slammy
11-07-2007, 06:39 PM
I charged Shaq $100 one time to change a blown fuse on his bagged esky that was in a "the game" video:inot:
You got pics of that, i remember seeing them hahaha
smorrison1
11-07-2007, 06:50 PM
That is so very true. More than half of what little I know about building minis, was taught to me by Joe. Also the bulk of the parts I have bought from him.
X2X2X2
Keith and Joe both have pulled through for me on many occasions and helped me out, and thats why I have even told Joe, when I have the money, sometimes I dont mind paying a little bit more for the work, because the work quality is good.
I have gotten parts on sunday from keith, and I have gotten LOADS of advice and work done at Joe's shop.
I just think the shops need to get together and agree on a minimum price for basic bag set-ups...I.E. Joe's Lay Frame for $4500. Hell it cost me $4500 to bag my own truck myself, and its not half as good of quality as what these guys can do, ITS WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!
thenickster
11-08-2007, 02:50 PM
Thats awsome! Props to Keith. That Hauler seems to break down everywhere! Not too long ago, I saw it out here in Cali with a flat tire. It's a dman nice rig though!
ShLamdchevy
11-08-2007, 07:14 PM
i bag trucks for free.
who wants a free bag job?
Brand_Oh
11-08-2007, 07:36 PM
i bag trucks for free.
who wants a free bag job?
you can blow on my bag
ShLamdchevy
11-08-2007, 07:56 PM
you can blow on my bag
as badass as your truck is... i wouldnt mind ;)
BigRyan
11-08-2007, 09:21 PM
well ive read thru all of this, and ive meet bill even YEARS ago took my blazer down there to them... i had very little to complain about there work they had a couple things i had to get adjusted when i let them work on it nothing serious though, and i know what Kerry is Talkin about, Bill is one the most laid back people ive meet across the scene i actualy enjoy hanging out with bill.... alot of his other employee's that he had there i cant say that for though which made me stop going to ekstenive years ago....
but on the other hand, i think Keith is Awesome for helping them out another shop helping them out is awesome, i know many of times i would have loved to have someone stop by and help me on the side of the road.....
but i have to go back and Give Mad Props to Joe he Helped me out at MeltDown a couple Years back i blew a line and he could have easly left me stranded on the side of the road to but him and his dad pulled over and helped me get back on the road to get home So Joe will always Be a good Ol Boy in my book just for that, cause alot of times i couldnt get help from anyone while laid out on the side of the road.....people like that will always have me coming to them rather To Shake there Hand or buy a valve or Bag, or just sending them buissness whatever u can do to help them out in return that really shows what a man is made of and the chartar of him and at the end of the day thats all that really matters....
Whytry85
11-08-2007, 09:58 PM
WORD when you do it for a bussines you have to make money. i hear people bitching about me and keiths prices even. remeber we have shop'd and shop bills to pay for plus the salary of our employes whihc incluides us. i have a house payment and house bills and a truck payment i have to make also. so think about that when you get a price. and you want to make sure there still around down the road if you have a problem right? You have to charge more. it cost me roughly $50 a hr to cover everything at shop you do the math we have to make $400 a day in profit to keep shop running smooth i mean hell think about taking your car to a mechanic for motor repair or such you pay 50-100 a hr for fixing it thats not custom work which is much harder so with that being said i have raised my prices. i do NOT do cheap set-ups or will i. i am happy bill has made it where he is i hope to be like that. i know where i came from. i know i had to spend money to build my stuff nice. in return if the "mini truckers" want to see me or keith around be willing to pay. and if you want to save a little $ and order parts off line GREAT! more power to ya. but dont come in to my shop and waste my time to ask how to work parts or install it call who you ordered from. these past couple of weeks i have seen alot of that we have worked hard to learn what we do. if you want info pay for it. i have always bent over backwards for people around here but no one returns the favor. have no problem calling at 10PM needing a part to get you off the road but then order parts from other place to save a buck remeber that when your broke down call them to bring you a part at night or on weekends!!!
ok sorry threads like this get me going LOL:rotf:
:end of rant::soapbox:
that makes me feel kinda bad that u said that. i bought some parts for my truck but was stumped on setting up my four link the first time and i called keith to figure out exactly how to do it. I guess that means that im a user and havent done anything in return for keith. im trying to get into the shop with keith to get some work done on my truck but being that i have a full time job and very little time off i hardly get to do anything. i really dont know where i was going with this but i just wantd Keith to know that i am truly thankful for answering EVERY question i had about doing something on my truck that i wasnt quite sure about. And that i am going to get some work done as soon as i can get up there with truck. ok im done.
truckguy2000
11-09-2007, 06:27 PM
yeah big ryan remeber how we met. Old blazer was having some promblems and u were a good bit from your house. I was like man i got that shit we can go to my house and fix that no promblem. And thats were our friendship begain and thats been like 7 or 8 years ago. Anywho just wanted to take a step back for a sec. Yeah keith is real good people i have known and hung out with him for about 10 years or so seen him go from speakers to lifts to bags and everything in between. And last but not least i'm not guna hate on extensive but i have been under a few of there rides and there wrk is extremly clean but alot of things leave u scratching your head saying that not fuctionally. also on another note last year matt spenece dually blew a bag in lufkin my home town and my buddy brit and I helped him with the bag and he had already found a local shop to put it in luv that shit when a local shop u don't get along wiht the greateast calls u up and is like hey we got so and so truck up here man u got a bag that will wrk. Thats priceless. Anywho srry 4 the book. When u read this keith call me this is chester trying to get them dime on 22's b4 t drag need some info help or wrk done we just need to chat. later ya'll
BigRyan
11-09-2007, 06:58 PM
Yea Chester helped me out for sure that night the blazer kept having problems back in the day and it was laid out in Sonic Parking Lot in Lufkin, and hell yea man u hooked me up that night to get me back on the road....WOW THat was sometime ago man, Yea we've always been friends since a little help can go a long ways rather its on the Streets crusin, or at a Show, Or EVEN in a MUD Pitt LOL.....
truckguy2000
11-09-2007, 07:50 PM
yeap i've always been down 4 tha casue. Got hated on a good bit when i joined the big we will leave unnamed club but hell i got out of that quick enuff. Ryan really just wish all the damn east tx peeps good get along too damn much drama that why i just fell off and started my own thing of staying at home the dime coming back threw just got sum 22's 4 it i'm about 1/4 of an inch from laying i hope it will make it to turkey drag. Will just have to see...
relaxednoma
11-09-2007, 07:57 PM
Im from a different state, but...just my 2 cents
first, props to keith for stepping up and helping out a fellow trucker, been in that spot a few times, just not with a big name lol.
I've only seen top notch work come from Ekstensive, it's not just putting a ride on the rockers on big wheels, it's drivable, and the fit and finish and detail is unreal.
The work I have seen from the shops here on DFW, that I know of, Keith's shop and Outlaw, are right up with Ekstensive's in quality. It's refreshing to see local shops, getting their name out there, and hopefully you guys are the next Ekstensives and we'll see your alls names in the magazines as well. Here in Kentucky, there's Big Vic Fabrication in Louisville, thats all I know of. Theres a lotta ppl that "think" they can build trucks around this area than I'm in. I help fix their garbage from time to time.
keith and redd came and saved me
imported_Dragginblazer
11-12-2007, 09:40 PM
hopefully you guys are the next Ekstensives and we'll see your alls names in the magazines as well.
Soon, very soon
keith and redd came and saved me
haha yea... and aldo on drag night...
Chevyguy
11-12-2007, 09:53 PM
He is a cool ass nig though, he offered to lend me some his 3 link template before I started working for joe cause we were gonna redo D's truck. Thats going out of his way, I prolly woulda been like, I'll build it for $300 :rotf:
Rocker'dRanger
11-12-2007, 10:41 PM
very very soon
very very very soon:rotf:
Chevyguy
11-12-2007, 10:48 PM
hrmmm
AIR_riding_JOE
11-24-2007, 03:16 AM
is it to late to ask for a quote.
Nitrodime...
11-24-2007, 10:20 AM
Its never to late !!!!
fizzle
11-24-2007, 10:56 AM
hrmm....i bugged Keith for a whole 3 or 4 hours at his shop while he built a wicked bolt on bridge for some dudes f150. he was happy to answer any and all questions whilst i poked around in his shop. and ive talked to joe once or twice and im sure he would be happy to answer all your retarded questions about blinker fluid if you really didn't know.
most people in our age group think 1,000 dollars is a lot of money. and we don't seem to realize how much work REALLY costs. add up all the grinding wheels, welding wire, electricity, tools, metal (which is usually quite a bit of money for a decent sfbd with back half) etc etc...and you haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to labor. knowledge. driving dependability of the finished vehicle, and individual customization. you aren't just paying for a "bolt on part" when it comes to bagging and dropping a truck. you are paying for someones food on the table, a business, a mortgage, and cloths on someones back AND A AWESOME SETUP ON YOUR TRUCK.
so next time, don't just look at how much money you are spending, but take a look at where your money is going, and see if you would pay that extra dollar for a friend with local business to do the work and buy the parts from, rather than "that cheap guy over there"
//end long and drawn out speech about nothing new.
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